tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6440079172555246587.post575010163953752077..comments2023-09-10T04:10:22.561-07:00Comments on Bloggers for John McCain: Military Men and Women Prefer John McCain Overwhelmingly; Democrats on IraqBloggers for John McCainhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08613650628644346618noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6440079172555246587.post-12398402267551577692008-10-22T16:58:00.000-07:002008-10-22T16:58:00.000-07:00OK... Powell serves on the Council on Foreign Rela...OK... Powell serves on the Council on Foreign Relations Board of directors, but his security clearance has been revoked? Her advised Bush on foreign policy after resigning from the state department, yet no one will let him see any "sensitive documents". Uh-uh... people have leaked portions of it already to the press, but Powell hasn't seen it? <BR/><BR/>Sure... it's "conspiratorial" to think Powell is still connected to the military and the intelligence apparatus.Merge Dividehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09589723464172651599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6440079172555246587.post-26291914865844684692008-10-22T16:21:00.000-07:002008-10-22T16:21:00.000-07:00"I bet Colin Powell's seen it."Talking about consp..."I bet Colin Powell's seen it."<BR/><BR/>Talking about conspiracy theories...Ferny for McCain at Stanfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11785422902282759043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6440079172555246587.post-36182962442274494872008-10-22T16:11:00.000-07:002008-10-22T16:11:00.000-07:00It will be interesting to see what the NIE has to ...It will be interesting to see what the NIE has to say about "victory: in Iraq, and the effectiveness of the surge. It's a shame that it won't be released in full until after the election. I bet Colin Powell's seen it.Merge Dividehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09589723464172651599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6440079172555246587.post-77930402032309083572008-10-22T15:29:00.000-07:002008-10-22T15:29:00.000-07:00Well, it could well be that the Iranian regime has...Well, it could well be that the Iranian regime has been unable to accept their failure and they are spreading rumors. It wouldn't be the first time the regime engages in this type of decepcion tactics. I take the word of the report on the Washington Post over Baer's, in the sense that the success of the surge is more related to a new strategy by the US army than by a false peace induced by Khamenei.Ferny for McCain at Stanfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11785422902282759043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6440079172555246587.post-18294901876341673422008-10-22T14:40:00.000-07:002008-10-22T14:40:00.000-07:00"I don't buy that its success is Khamenei induced...."I don't buy that its success is Khamenei induced."<BR/><BR/>Well, Robert Baer claims otherwise, and I have no reason to believe you over him.Merge Dividehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09589723464172651599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6440079172555246587.post-59955634312506925242008-10-22T08:40:00.000-07:002008-10-22T08:40:00.000-07:00I listened to it but I learned nothing new about I...I listened to it but I learned nothing new about Iran. As I said, I have many Iranian friends. A few years ago, I read <A HREF="http://www.iranian.com/May96/Opinion/Conspiracy.html" REL="nofollow">this article "Conspiracy theories and <BR/>the Persian Mind"</A> which describes in quite detail Iranians' obsession with conspiracies.Ferny for McCain at Stanfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11785422902282759043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6440079172555246587.post-10097579761396016542008-10-21T20:39:00.000-07:002008-10-21T20:39:00.000-07:00Well... I don't know if this meets your standard o...Well... I don't know if this meets your standard of "evidence", but if you get a chance, listen to an interview ex-CIA agent Robert Baer did with NPR. Here's my post about my reaction... the first hyperlink takes you directly to the NPR Site where you can listen:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://dgrim.blogspot.com/2008/10/robert-baer-on-nprs-fresh-air-part-1.html" REL="nofollow">FIND IT HERE </A>Merge Dividehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09589723464172651599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6440079172555246587.post-61445258865742418572008-10-21T20:26:00.000-07:002008-10-21T20:26:00.000-07:00Two things,1- On the fact that there is no evidenc...Two things,<BR/><BR/>1- On the fact that there is no evidence whatsoever that Bush deliberately lied about the WMD, I can point you to the bipartisan comission that said so (the one mentioned by Bush in the video)<BR/><BR/>2- On the effect of the surge, I give you that the surge <A HREF="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/09/06/ST2008090600345.html" REL="nofollow">is not the only reason</A> we have political stability in Iraq. That said, I don't buy that its success is Khamenei induced. Not that I don't think Iranians are able to do what you are saying (I have a few Iranian friends) but I also know how prone they are to conspiracy theories such as the one you are describing. If you have evidence of what you are saying, other than the testimony of some conspiracy-theories-prone Iranian, I would love to see it!Ferny for McCain at Stanfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11785422902282759043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6440079172555246587.post-23219857723259242272008-10-21T19:33:00.000-07:002008-10-21T19:33:00.000-07:00"There is no evidence whatsoever that GW Bush deli..."There is no evidence whatsoever that GW Bush deliberately lied the nation on the WMD issue."<BR/><BR/>What you mean to say is that you haven't read or heard any such evidence, and I'll buy that.<BR/><BR/>Regardless Bush was wrong about WMDs (and ties to al Qaeda), and he deserved to be repudiated. Biden's idea was a good one, because at least then we could have broke it up according to our terms. As it is now, Southern Iraq has become an Iranian proxy, and Baghdad is a becoming tight with Iran as well. Is that "victory" as far as your concerned?<BR/><BR/>The insurgency stood down on Iran's orders. Moqtada al-Sadr was told by Supreme Leader Ali Khameni to quit resisting so that the US would have political cover to leave. It has very little to do with "the surge".<BR/><BR/>US servicemen and women always try their best to complete the mission. Unfortunately the goals of this mission have been muddied from the start. Before you start getting excited about the "progress" in Iraq, wait for the full NIE report to come out after the election.Merge Dividehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09589723464172651599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6440079172555246587.post-61456580778512303502008-10-21T17:07:00.000-07:002008-10-21T17:07:00.000-07:00First, I am happy that we cleared the misunderstan...First, I am happy that we cleared the misunderstanding.<BR/><BR/>The message that I am trying to convey is that in 2003 and before, especially after 9/11 and right before the Iraq invasion, the Democrats, including many prominent ones such as Biden, H Clinton, Edwards, Pelosi, sided with Bush because they understood that Iraq posed a serious threat to the United States. There is no evidence whatsoever that GW Bush deliberately lied the nation on the WMD issue. Bush did exactly the same thing that any other president, Democrat or Republican, would have done given the circumstances and the knowledge at hand (even President Clinton in his 1998 remark hinted to an Iraq invasion). <BR/><BR/>Then, after the WMD fiasco, the Democrats "en masse" repudiated Bush (and their own assesment because the war resolution was voted for by the vast majority of them) only for political expediency. In 2006 they went as far as suggesting a surrender. Biden was one of the most prominent proponents of breaking the country into pieces.<BR/><BR/>To me, one of the most refreshing things, that show the degree of progress achieved with the surge, was the massive protest against extending the presence of US troops for too long in Iraq. Why? Because that's how things work over here and other Western democracies. When you disagree, you protest, you don't kill the person with whom you disagree, which was until very recently the tactic used by the insurgency. If they have understood that they can make their case by protesting, that's a huge advance in the situation in Iraq. <BR/><BR/>I think that we are all proud of the sacrifice that US service men and women have done to take Iraq from a brutal dictatorship to the current situation.Ferny for McCain at Stanfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11785422902282759043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6440079172555246587.post-50035029357504926302008-10-21T14:35:00.000-07:002008-10-21T14:35:00.000-07:00Ok Ferny,If that's what you meant to say, how do y...Ok Ferny,<BR/><BR/>If that's what you meant to say, how do you justify your opinion? What do you mean by it?Merge Dividehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09589723464172651599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6440079172555246587.post-54438807683061358132008-10-21T09:09:00.000-07:002008-10-21T09:09:00.000-07:00I think you misinterpreted my comment. I don't say...I think you misinterpreted my comment. I don't say that Iraq doesn't matter, what I said is that today's democrats opinion doesn't matter as it did in 2003 and before. I am going to correct the wording. Thanks!Ferny for McCain at Stanfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11785422902282759043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6440079172555246587.post-91387470720793568972008-10-21T08:47:00.000-07:002008-10-21T08:47:00.000-07:00I'm sure the soldiers currently fighting overseas ...I'm sure the soldiers currently fighting overseas will be heartened by your assertion that Iraq doesn't matter anymore.Merge Dividehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09589723464172651599noreply@blogger.com